@Empiricism I don't agree about the definition of science here. The use of the term "science" can mean several things (the below list may not be exhaustive):
- the community of the scientists;
- the overall knowledge produced by the community;
- as you mentioned, the methods to get that knowledge;
- the application of this knowledge (aka the technology);
Because of that, when the context don't allow to understand what is the meaning behind the use of this word, I suggest to clarify it.
@Empiricism I don't agree with the premise that "Science is epistemology".
> The empirical method is what demarcates science from belief.
Social sciences, theoretical astronomy, evolutionary biology, are scientific fields and are not empirical (for evolutionary biology, Popper was wrong first and then had to admit it is science). Also Popper is outdated nowadays.
@Empiricism
I did not say that science is not knowledge. Please do not change what I said and exaggerate it 🙄
Also please, don't take me for an absolute ignorant of what epistemology is. I currently read Thomas S Kuhn's "The structure of scientific revolutions", for what it is worth.
I take the website you gave me, and it gives many definitions that is not epistemology for science (many of which are the meanings of science I proposed before):
https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the-meaning-of-the-word/science.html
Good luck too.
– science has indeed several definitions, as @florent said. If you're talking about the method, then let's define it as a method that aims to produce (reliable) knowledge.
– epistemology is the field that study what is knowledge and how it is produced, as @Empiricism said.
Using those definitions, the initial assertion that “science is epistemology” is obviously false. How the method used to produce knowledge can be the same thing as the studying of such knowledge?
Of course, you need epistemology to build a good method, and thus to build science. But both are different things, by definition.
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> Epistemology is knowledge!
Seriously, no 🤦♂️
You can acquire much knowledge not though epistemology (science, logic, ...),
Epistemology is the study of questions like 'what we do we know?", "how to we produce knowledge?", "what is knowledge?", ... but **not** this whole knowledge on its own
> FYI, religion is epistemology
What the????