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@davidrevoy They don't deserve something this cute

@davidrevoy In the context of this: while many of the actions of @mozilla feel annoying (i.e. axing FirefoxOS just before it became widespread in South America) and while it doesn’t look like that if you plot a market share which includes the massively growing number of mobile devices with a bundled browser:

Firefox has been mostly keeping its users since 2017.

https://www.draketo.de/software/firefox-usercount

Annotated plot of the absolute number of Firefox users:

- 2010 at 600 million Chrome was introduced
- 2013 at 450 million users, Firefox OS pones were abandoned
- 2015 at 350 million users Firefox OS itself was abandoned
- 2017 at 200 million users it switched to Web Extensions (the old extensions were abandoned)
- Between 2017 and 2021 it stayed mostly stable at 190 million users.

@ArneBab @davidrevoy @mozilla If you look at https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/user-activity it's been on a slow descent from ~200M in 2019 to ~160M in 2024.

@lanodan That’s interesting — thank you! it looks like two different slopes: one mostly constant until 2022, and then something happened that made it worse.

It lost 5 Million users (when looking only at the maximum) per year from 2020 to 2022, and from 2022 to 2024 it lost 10 to 15 million users per year.

That’s a doubled or tripled loss rate that’s not yet in my graphs.

Do you remember what @mozilla did in 2022?

@davidrevoy

@davidrevoy I am quite sure your intentions are not as bad as it seems, but something feels really wrong with that post.

@Lioh I feel sorry in advance if another meaning than "Mozilla leadership once again are making clown things" can be interpreted from this drawing.

If it is hurting a community. That's not my intention at all with this comic.

Also, if it has something to do with the makeup symbols or the colors of the hair, it is just inspired/inherited from the original meme (src: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/putting-on-clown-makeup ).

Thank you for pointing it, I hope my answer will participate to disambiguate anything wrong.

@davidrevoy thanks for pointing that out. I did not see the reference and I also did not know the original meme until know (which I think is already quite offensive in itself). I think posts like this are a hit in the face of the queer community and I just don't like them.

@Lioh I sincerly feel sorry to read it. I hope you'll forgive me for haven't been able to anticipate this particular side effect for the audience not knowing the original meme, or not clicking on the ref. 😔

I really thought it would be read just as a tiny joke in front of a news I had hard time to cope (something that happens too often with Mozilla).

I’m feeling a bit lost. What happened?

@P4ulin_Kbana You can follow the link in the ref and read comments: it's about a leadership decision of Mozilla to close their Mastodon instance. They do this while they invest a lot on AI.
In short, it's Mozilla governance that is going more and more full speed into a "capitalism tech bro" mindset, at the cost of a more and more visible departure of the Free/Libre software community. A decision that I qualify of them being clowns, now. And I parody the meme https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/putting-on-clown-makeup for that.

2017 and 2021 it stayed mostly stable at 190 million users

Interesting that they almost managed to stop the decline for a few years there. In 2024 after the recent string of nonsensical decisions it's down to 158 million.

@kbal yes.

While they were widely criticized during that time, 2017 to 2022 were actually pretty stable years. And that despite constant uncertainty about the future (“will Google continue to pay?”) and failures to get other revenue sources (AFAIK).
@davidrevoy @mozilla

@kbal I have the impression that CEO’s and equivalents often forget the importance of the existing userbase.

So instead of making the existing people happy and trying to reach others from that base, they shoot for the big crowd — but without having enough to stand on.
@davidrevoy @mozilla

@ArneBab Oh yes, my feeling also about it.

@kbal

@davidrevoy Tiens, je viens de te voir repartager cette image, et ça me fait penser : est-ce qu'elle ne pourrait pas avoir sa place dans framamèmes ? Il me semble qu'elle irait plutôt bien à côté des images de @gee, non ?
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@elzen @gee Oh peut-être pas, elle est trop centré sur Firefox comparé au meme originel. Et puis j'aime bien l'unité qu'a Framameme avec que les dessin de Gee pour le moment. Je voudrai pas casser cette unité. Mais par contre, je suis curieux du code de Framameme, pour voir si il y aurait moyen de l'utiliser pour redialoguer ou faire de la trad de BD courte comme les miniFantasyTheatre. C'est canon comme petit logiciel en ligne tout ça.